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what's going on

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hello hello i hope everyone can see me

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so please bear with me this is my first

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interview i'm going to be joined shortly

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by mr dave beatty

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um so yeah just just give me a second

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guys i just want to check a few settings

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um anybody

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that's in the chat if you can just tell

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me if everything sounds okay i'd really

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it's telling me i've got an unstable

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and we'll do it as best as i can

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right guys so i'm going to bring in mr

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dave beatty and we'll

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we'll kick this off hello dave thank you

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for joining

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me vinnie how are you

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glad to be here i'm good thank you how

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are you doing today thank you so much

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for doing this

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and it's saying it sounds

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well i guess it depends on uh where you

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are in the internet i

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uh i can hear you okay although you are

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a little fuzzy on the

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digitized picture there through the

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internet but

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okay yeah my my wi-fi my wi-fi my

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internet connections

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seems to just be having some serious

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issues but

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we'll get through it and uh what else

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can we do

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that's right dave what i wanted to

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really kick off with is for people that

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aren't aware

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yeah i'm sorry i don't know if there's a

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delay or not but if you could just start

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off by telling us a little bit of your

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background and how you got into ufos in

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the uap subject

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absolutely uh well out of college here

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in the united states

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i studied media uh you know and once

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once i got out of school i

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was in broadcast journalism for about a

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decade there

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i started in a small market in upstate

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new york i

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eventually came down to south florida i

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you know the television news gig for a

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while and then got into teleproduction

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um you know the the technology and

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telling stories through the visual

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medium is sort of my

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my passion versus actually being a news

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hound although i did

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enjoy the journalism part of it and it's

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kind of

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served me well over the years telling

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stories i always had a

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interest in ufos from when i was

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probably an adolescent for like most of

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us you know sometimes our parents had an

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interest and shared books and

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stories with us and over the years yeah

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i mean when i came down here in the

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uh early 90s i was a uf

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mufon field investigator for a number of

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down in the state section southwest

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florida um

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i never had any real big cases while i

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some small ones i got involved with the

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gulf breeze sightings up in

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the panhandle where my mother happened

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to live which uh gave me a home base

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went up there a few times in in during

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the the peak of that flap

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um unfortunately i never got to see the

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gulf breeze ufo myself

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my mom did um right from her uh

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her balcony basically of her condo she

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took a look at the the red light that

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they called bubba

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that would sometimes hover over the

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sound yeah so

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of course i never got to see it but uh

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that's that's just my luck i suppose and

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i've continued over the years and then

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um i got a really keen interest

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in 2017 like a lot of us

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ufo and jackson so to speak with the new

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york times article

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and the big announcement of to the stars

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academy

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the a-tip program was revealed and

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that's kind of a nutshell yes no

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thank you for that so just leading on

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from what you were saying about

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your mother and stuff so since then have

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you had an encounter at all

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in the years following that no and i

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i do some

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time lapse photography i still have not

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i want to get one of those uh sky hubs

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or uf uap dot

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systems so i can yeah you know remotely

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time or

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seen any uh uaps recently

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that's exactly exactly the same boat

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unfortunately i've never had an

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experience or a sighting either so

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yeah maybe one day hopefully um so

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a lot of people will i was just going to

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lead into the next one just saying a lot

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of people will know you from the nimitz

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encounters

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and so was it just your passion for ufos

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and then your history

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um in what you what you were into making

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link the two together yeah it was

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i guess you know convergence of events

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um when i heard about

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the uh fighter strike fighter pilots

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from vfa 41 black aces

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and commander david uh fravor and

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uh you know commander alex dietrich

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and jim slate who were relating their

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stories

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in public for the first time it just

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intrigued me and

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while they could describe seeing this

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40-foot long

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flying tic tac i thought that maybe the

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audience would be

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interested in seeing maybe what they saw

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from their perspective

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of these f 8 18 uh super hornets

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um i have some shops in doing 3d

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and you know i've done that my whole

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career it's not my main gig

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but i did start experimenting and i was

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showing some people online and they're

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like wow that's really cool

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and it just kind of snowballed from

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there i started doing some scenes

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and one scene became another scene

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became a dozen scenes

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and eventually i enlisted all my friends

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um my lovely wife nancy is the voice of

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commander dietrich of course i'm i uh

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i got volunteered to do uh commander

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fravor's voice i don't know that he

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probably doesn't appreciate that but

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uh and then my friend wilson did

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slate uh in the the wizzo for

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uh alex's jet and you know we just

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um sort of edutainment like so that

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we're trying to be accurate

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to the best of our ability with the

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story based on

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the witnesses statements again i mean i

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all sides of it i always tried to

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as accurately as possible what what was

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from various people um yeah there's

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still there's still some controversy

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as you know if you follow the subject in

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depth um every now and then someone will

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appear that might question another

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statement um that's happened from the

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very beginning i think that

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the same stuff happened with rendersham

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um yes indeed

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it did yeah um that's right and that's

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you know people told me that that this

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often happens um yeah

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and again i've always been of the

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mindset that hey if

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if my film if there's something in there

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that is inaccurate and i find out that

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this is completely false

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i'm just going to like release a new

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version and change it because

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yeah unlike a hollywood movie you know

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you you can't do that but

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on youtube you know this is version this

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is nimitz encounters version 5 or

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whatever

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so yeah no of course because obviously i

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i saw the first version when it first

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came out and then obviously there's the

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the updated version that's out there and

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they you know i think you're talking

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over 6 million views or something now

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i mean did you did you ever expect it to

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go that far get that big

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no i um i think i'm on version four now

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like uh starting in november 2018 there

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was a 15 minute version and that

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isn't well i i just did it for myself

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and my friends you know um that were

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interested in uaps

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and i was sharing it around i put it on

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youtube created a channel there

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i never really expected it to get

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anything but it was just organic i

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didn't really go out there and promote

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some people have claimed that you know

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it's just bait or something but

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again i mean i never um received

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although i do have it i did eventually

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uh put it up on amazon prime so if you

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you can watch it in your

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widescreen theater system which is a

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better experience i guess than on your

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mobile device but

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uh they pay me you know i might make i

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don't know 20 bucks a month or something

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on it

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nothing wrong with that that's great no

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i mean it's

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probably the one documentary that i uh

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tell people to go and watch out of most

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because i found it just so compelling

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you know really getting to the heart of

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the case and even for people that

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haven't got an interest in the ufo topic

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if they ask me about it

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i say start with the nimitz encounters

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because you'll you'll get a really good

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understanding of what's been happening

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recently um so yeah um well

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it helps that i have a keen interest in

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military history

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in aviation military aviation i've done

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extensive reading on the

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in the subject matter my whole life so

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those sort of nuts and bolts aspects of

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the film i tried to

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keep that as semi-realistic as i could

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and i think that you know people have

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told me even fighter fighter pilots have

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said hey

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you know great job on that it's it

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seemed like very realistic i've even had

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people

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uh say that they thought that it was

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real how did i get the footage and

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i said it's not you know like most of it

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it's incredible so yeah i think i'm a

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no worries so i thought we'd just move

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on um

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up to the more recent cases so we've all

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seen the videos that have dropped over

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the past few months from jeremy corbell

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with the radar footage as well um

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any general thoughts on on the way he

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did it the way he released it is that

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something

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you've liked looking at or do you think

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it could have been done in a better way

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maybe brought out all together how do

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you view it

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well first of all um i was like really

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i guess surprised and when i saw what it

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was i was really super

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excited and stoked about it because

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i had been studying the case for almost

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a year and

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i had really come up empty as far as

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getting any kind of evidence other than

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the the foi the foia material and some

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behind the scenes guys that kind of told

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me about it so

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i've been really looking at this case

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for a long time and all of a sudden you

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know to see this video come out i'm like

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oh my god i can't believe

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that that even existed because i i

312
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figured that the navy had

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you know captured all that material and

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and you know squirreled it away in some

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um you know um classified program or

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something like that where

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the the public would never see any of

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that material so

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now as far as jeremy i know that he is a

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a promoter as far as his material uh

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that

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part of it obviously his is his career

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and he has a way that he releases

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material to the public um i tend to just

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kind of like

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throw it out there without it

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i mean i have done a couple uh you know

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premiere

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type things where you know hey i'm gonna

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release something tomorrow but

331
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yeah i don't mind it to be honest with

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you um it's sort of interesting i hope

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that

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wire and jeremy and

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mr knapp have uh you know made um

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actually turn out to be true that this

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is some kind of trans-medium

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craft a sphere that could fly in the

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atmosphere and then go underwater

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i mean those are pretty bold claims um i

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certainly

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have no evidence to support that in any

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of the uh research that i've done behind

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the scenes with the case so

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right i mean i really hope that it is

346
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too and am i right in saying that um

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all evidence from any of the snoopy

348
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teams has been

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like you said locked away and classified

350
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is that right from all of the different

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ships that were in that area

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as far as myself mark ciccati

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dr adam kehoe that did the article uh

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for

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the drive um we all our

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foias and communications have come back

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as far as the snoopy teams as being

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either that the the agency in command

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that we

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requested from doesn't have those

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records and then they

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redirected our foias to other

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divisions within the navy that they say

364
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that these records are stored at

365
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um some of the first um toys that i

366
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requested came back saying that they did

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find some records and

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they were they were denied

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under the exception of classified

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that would harm the national security of

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the united states so they couldn't

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release them

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that's crazy um i mean a lot i think it

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was

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mainly the two dates back in july of

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2019 when this occurred there was

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i mean there was 10 plus ships if i'm

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right in that sort of vicinity

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like around 100 miles of san diego is

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that right

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um yeah it is right in um one thing to

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clarify

383
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you know sometimes people don't

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understand when they they read the cases

385
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or their

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they they see the videos of the omaha

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and what was described as a flying

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pyramid video

389
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um yeah that those cases are all related

390
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to this

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one big event and it all happened mid

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july to the end of july so it began

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around july 14th

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culminating probably towards july 27th

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so there's a lot of days between there

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sometimes the

397
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sightings didn't happen every single

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night in some cases they did

399
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in other cases there would be a sighting

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every other night

401
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and this continued on through the end of

402
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july so we're talking hundreds and

403
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hundreds of

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witnesses if not thousands of witnesses

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to just

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numerous events that to this day the

407
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navy

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you know the the chief of naval naval

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operations says

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that they don't know where these what

411
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they you know describe in the log says

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you

413
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unidentified uav came for yeah that's

414
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right uav

415
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what unidentified uav where they came

416
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from

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and who was controlling them yeah

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because is it right that

419
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some of the sightings lasted way over 90

420
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minutes right up into like three hours

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of

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well i might debate that point um based

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on the logs that i have

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i don't see i i've never seen any

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description of

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flight time because obviously to

427
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establish that you would have to have

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some type of

429
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sighting that was specifically saying

430
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that they were seeing

431
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one object that remain invisible

432
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observation for 90 minutes what i see in

433
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the logs is

434
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:21,760
descriptions such as sighted red light

435
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at you know bearing 243 or something

436
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like that

437
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and it would have the time and then it

438
00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:28,800
would said spotted two

439
00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:31,920
unidentified drones port side bearing

440
00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:34,880
uh zero one five and this one on and you

441
00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:35,920
went to another ship

442
00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:38,079
and it would say snoopy team away which

443
00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:40,240
is the ship's uh

444
00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:43,360
intelligence arm photographic

445
00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:45,199
intelligence arm and they would send

446
00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:46,720
these guys out to take video and

447
00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:48,800
photographs of these lights

448
00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:50,959
um then maybe 20 minutes later they

449
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would secure that team

450
00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:54,160
the commanding officer would be on the

451
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bridge so this goes on and on

452
00:16:00,069 --> 00:15:58,639
like point by point through minutes and

453
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minutes of logs

454
00:16:03,990 --> 00:16:02,800
but um i never really saw i know i know

455
00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:04,000
that was in the article i never saw

456
00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:05,120
anything about

457
00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:07,920
a drone hanging around for 90 minutes um

458
00:16:13,269 --> 00:16:09,120
it's possible

459
00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:13,279
and maybe that was part of uh radar

460
00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:14,720
data or something that i don't know

461
00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:17,680
about and they definitely don't or

462
00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:19,360
we haven't seen any information about

463
00:16:22,150 --> 00:16:21,120
where they came from or where they went

464
00:16:25,030 --> 00:16:22,160
to either

465
00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:25,040
have we i mean that's the puzzling part

466
00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:26,560
because we know that the

467
00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:29,600
spy 1 radar one of the most powerful

468
00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:32,560
components of the aegis combat system

469
00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:34,480
with all these vessels out there i mean

470
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:37,839
every destroyer has that system um which

471
00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:40,480
can scan the uh surface of the ocean all

472
00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:41,839
the way out to

473
00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:44,000
the what they call the radar horizon

474
00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:46,560
over 256 nautical miles from the vessel

475
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all the way up to

476
00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:50,800
80 000 feet or more in the in the sky in

477
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a big dome around every ship that's

478
00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:53,519
there

479
00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:55,040
the idea that they couldn't figure out

480
00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:56,560
where like if the

481
00:17:01,110 --> 00:16:59,920
if these were say military drones being

482
00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:01,120
operated by

483
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:03,519
uh the chinese for instance that's been

484
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:04,559
speculated

485
00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:06,000
well you would assume that the navy

486
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:07,360
would know that since they could have

487
00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:08,319
tracked where

488
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:10,720
they went the ship they landed on or you

489
00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:12,240
know perhaps the other way around where

490
00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:12,799
the

491
00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:20,880
case is we don't know

492
00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:23,439
why they don't know where they came from

493
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the

494
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to talk

495
00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:33,760
to other vessels captains and

496
00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:36,640
they identified several merchant vessels

497
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that were foreign flag merchant vessels

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out there

499
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and this is like say a week after the

500
00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:42,960
event and they were

501
00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,679
inquiring like who owns this vessel were

502
00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:47,600
they flying any drones

503
00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:48,720
so it seemed like they didn't really

504
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:51,280
know and is it right was there a cruise

505
00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:51,600
ship

506
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i think it was called the carnival

507
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imagination that actually radioed one of

508
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the ships is is that correct information

509
00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:00,640
yeah that's correct uh there's uh

510
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:03,200
notations about radio calls

511
00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:06,080
um going on in different vessels and um

512
00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:06,799
one of the

513
00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:08,960
the ships mentioned that the that

514
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carnival cruise line

515
00:18:13,990 --> 00:18:13,200
said hey it wasn't us we you know we saw

516
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we saw a couple

517
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drones in the distance but we weren't

518
00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:17,679
flying and no one was flying drones from

519
00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,160
our

520
00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:20,880
cruise ship um we looked into that

521
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:22,400
cruise ship but unfortunately i think it

522
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got scrapped

523
00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:25,039
uh you know that how they tear those

524
00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:27,200
things apart they beat them and yeah

525
00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:29,280
that ship's gone uh at least at this

526
00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:30,640
point um

527
00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:32,400
and we couldn't i never could find the

528
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:33,919
crew um

529
00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:36,000
anyone else is you know feel free to try

530
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:38,080
to find out um who the master of that

531
00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:38,400
ship

532
00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:40,960
was that might be able to remember

533
00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:42,000
remember seeing that

534
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:44,480
those drones that week um trying to

535
00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:45,440
think there was a

536
00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:47,600
a research vessel out there that was

537
00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:48,799
doing a

538
00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:50,320
an american research vessel that was

539
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:52,080
doing some study of

540
00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:54,720
um i don't know fish or something and

541
00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:57,440
they said they had a uh dji phantom

542
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:59,600
uh but they weren't they said they never

543
00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:01,280
saw the navy ships and they weren't

544
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:03,840
flying it at that time and they like had

545
00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:04,880
one

546
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,160
phantom um yeah yeah so

547
00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:10,240
it's it's pretty it's pretty mysterious

548
00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:12,080
um here's something that i discovered

549
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:12,799
last week

550
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:16,000
that i think might be relevant when i

551
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:17,280
was looking at

552
00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:18,799
you know i have a spreadsheet i'm

553
00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:20,880
correlating all the ships like

554
00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:23,120
minute by minute when they're reporting

555
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:24,320
seeing these

556
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:27,520
you know uap or lights and i noticed

557
00:19:32,710 --> 00:19:28,640
that

558
00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:32,720
the the day it began on july 14th

559
00:19:36,789 --> 00:19:35,600
earlier that day all the all the ships

560
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,799
started firing

561
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:39,440
missiles so they were out there doing

562
00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:40,080
training

563
00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:42,640
and they were doing some testing and

564
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:43,600
almost 2t

565
00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:47,200
like every single [\h__\h] um started firing

566
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:50,080
surface-to-air missiles off you know

567
00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:52,080
that are pretty capable missiles these

568
00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:55,840
missiles can intercept nuclear icbms

569
00:19:58,470 --> 00:19:56,799
coming in

570
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:58,480
not in space but the ones they were

571
00:20:01,029 --> 00:20:00,080
launching could knock them out in

572
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:01,039
terminal defense

573
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,320
descent stage so you know sometimes

574
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:06,159
people say hey ufos and nukes are always

575
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,440
sort of you know there's something

576
00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:09,120
correlation there well absolutely the

577
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:12,320
ships are firing missiles off that day

578
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,960
and then that night is when it started

579
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:16,799
and even the next day they fired some

580
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:18,320
missiles off on the 15th

581
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,360
of july and then the these

582
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:23,760
lights came back that night they didn't

583
00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:24,720
see the lights

584
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,960
or they never at least i never found any

585
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,240
reports of

586
00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:31,200
these observations during daylight hours

587
00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:31,919
um

588
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,760
even like say when the missiles were

589
00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:35,440
being fired in the morning or in the

590
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,400
afternoon

591
00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:38,080
yeah there was no mention of anything

592
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:39,679
and then as soon as it gets to be like

593
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:42,080
nine or ten at night all of a sudden

594
00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:42,880
these uh

595
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,880
lights appear like around all these

596
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,640
ships that are in some cases hundred

597
00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,120
miles hundreds of miles apart

598
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:51,840
wow that's so mysterious that's why it

599
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:52,799
isn't just a simple

600
00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:55,600
it's not a simple drone case to me it

601
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:56,240
really is

602
00:21:01,590 --> 00:20:58,640
anomalous and that leads me am i right

603
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:01,600
in saying that you spoke to someone

604
00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:03,280
i think he might have had a friend on

605
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:04,720
the uss chaffee

606
00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:07,760
who who claims to have seen them by eye

607
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:09,280
and that they even might have been tic

608
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:09,760
tac

609
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,720
shaped or is that well that's that's how

610
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,480
i found out about the case

611
00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:17,280
um at the end of the nimitz you know i i

612
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:19,039
ask people to email me i give i put an

613
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:20,480
email on the screen on there and

614
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,280
yeah i've gotten a lot of um response

615
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:24,799
from that you know and um

616
00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,520
met a lot of people there was a a gent

617
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:28,960
that was

618
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:33,200
on the uss chaffee in 2004 that had

619
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,919
he claimed a personal experience with

620
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:36,960
the tic tac

621
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:40,559
uh objects through uh an air intercept

622
00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:44,400
and he he says it was in december um not

623
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:47,360
november so the month after the famous

624
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:47,919
um

625
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,720
case yeah so there there could even be

626
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,320
another

627
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:54,400
sighting of this object that's sort of

628
00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:55,360
unknown

629
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,400
really in the world of ufology

630
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:00,480
again that's one person that i have and

631
00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:03,120
i haven't corroborated that he said

632
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:05,440
that a guy that was on his ship with him

633
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:06,640
now

634
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:10,080
uss

635
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:12,240
kid and he said have you heard about

636
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:13,679
that case

637
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,120
my buddy was on the uss kid july 2019

638
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:19,120
and i said no i've never heard of it

639
00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:21,280
this was um april this was about a year

640
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:21,760
ago

641
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:25,520
april 2020. and so i i did a foia for

642
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:26,080
uss

643
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:28,400
kid and that's when i began discovering

644
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:29,679
all these

645
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:33,760
drones

646
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:37,039
and snoopy teams and that kicked it all

647
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:38,320
off now

648
00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:41,840
he said his buddy um said that they were

649
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:42,520
large

650
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,080
tic-tac-shaped objects and

651
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:48,320
um i go i go are you sure these weren't

652
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:49,679
like you know

653
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:52,000
drones like that had rotors and stuff

654
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,960
and he's like no

655
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,039
yeah they were wow they saw these

656
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:57,120
directly at eye level from the bridge of

657
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,400
the ship

658
00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:00,320
and he said they were pretty you know

659
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:01,919
kind of freaked out about it and

660
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:05,039
yeah they would be so i mean

661
00:23:08,270 --> 00:23:07,679
there's that and then another witness

662
00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:08,280
again

663
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:10,480
unsubstantiated said his brother-in-law

664
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,080
was on one of the ships

665
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:14,559
and they thought that they were chinese

666
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:15,919
drones and they were

667
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:18,080
waving at them so there's these two

668
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:20,480
divergent

669
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:23,360
witnesses so so to speak uh and then you

670
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,080
add in

671
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,120
uh mr corbal's video footage

672
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:29,120
of what you know it seems pretty

673
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,159
anomalous

674
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,159
and yeah i don't know where to look i

675
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:34,240
mean i'm like is that right is it a

676
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:35,280
chinese drone

677
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:37,760
or is it like a tic tac i still don't

678
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:39,039
think we know

679
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:41,120
no i i completely agree and i think

680
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,720
that's probably why i wanted to talk to

681
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:44,159
you about it is just

682
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:46,000
because i'm really waiting for more

683
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,520
information to come out on this i'm

684
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:49,679
trying to look for things

685
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:51,120
and i think it's a really exciting and

686
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:52,960
intriguing case no matter what it turns

687
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:53,679
out to be

688
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:56,480
so and i think i mean the way you tweet

689
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,240
about it with all the technicalities

690
00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:00,640
from your the military side of things

691
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,640
i mean most of it does go over my head i

692
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,480
find myself googling all these different

693
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:07,039
military terms i just want to know

694
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:09,120
because it's that interesting so

695
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,880
yeah i just look forward to more um

696
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,559
now my final sort of area that i wanted

697
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:16,720
to touch on very briefly is

698
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:19,600
this mysterious triangle photograph that

699
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:20,799
we've been hearing about

700
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,000
rumored for for quite some time now

701
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:26,000
supposed to show this triangle leaving

702
00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:27,360
the water that was

703
00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:30,840
snapped by a wizard from an f-18f

704
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:33,760
um have you heard anything about that

705
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,200
um i know you made a you put a tweet out

706
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,120
saying that you thought that um

707
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,200
mj banayas and tim mcmillan may have

708
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:42,960
seen it or have it um

709
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:45,440
so yeah can you expand on that at all

710
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:46,559
well i know that

711
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:48,559
there's a little bit of sensitivity here

712
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:49,760
because of the

713
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:52,240
um you know the source of that

714
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:53,520
information

715
00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:56,400
um it's my understanding that within the

716
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:58,159
intelligence community there's

717
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:01,600
different networks that exist

718
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,000
depending on classification level and

719
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:06,000
that you know there might be

720
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,240
a shared drive or shared file system

721
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:12,720
and it was explained to me that this

722
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:14,880
particular case which i believe was part

723
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:15,600
of the uap

724
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:18,799
task force portfolio had been shared

725
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:20,799
around and almost like

726
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:23,200
people that didn't have any reason

727
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,480
really to

728
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,720
look at the picture of the ufo you know

729
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:28,480
might go and look at it because it was

730
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:29,840
you know something to do on your lunch

731
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,480
break or something and

732
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:34,640
so that a lot of people were very aware

733
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:36,960
of this photograph and

734
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,600
it was described to me and and tim

735
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,600
mcmillan from the debrief

736
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:44,240
said hey do you mind just uh making a

737
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,279
graphic of this

738
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:46,880
because i want people to kind of

739
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:48,559
understand what it might have looked

740
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:49,840
like so i said sure so

741
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:52,640
yeah i started you know doing some cgi

742
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:53,279
that

743
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,320
mimicked um you know the what he

744
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,240
described to me and then

745
00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:00,080
from my understanding he showed that to

746
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,919
the person that had the picture

747
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:03,760
and they adjusted it a few times and

748
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:06,000
then said that looks like exactly it

749
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,360
and so um it's pretty startling you know

750
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:11,760
if you look at that picture it's a

751
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:14,400
triangle with rounded corners not square

752
00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:15,440
sharp pointy

753
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:17,679
corners but like rounded in that on each

754
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,799
corner

755
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:21,279
i think that one it has the white um

756
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,320
circle

757
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:24,240
yeah and nothing in the middle he said

758
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:26,080
it was sort of gunmetal color not

759
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,279
black so to speak and you know

760
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:31,360
i the question i have is you know of

761
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:32,400
course that's pretty

762
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,880
crazy like if that type of craft exists

763
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:35,760
but how did they

764
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:38,720
know to where to look uh to see it come

765
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:39,919
out of the water because

766
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:41,360
you know if you're flying at high

767
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,200
altitude in a jet

768
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,120
over the ocean you know it's a big ocean

769
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,960
out there like if something just popped

770
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:48,880
out of the ocean how would you know

771
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:51,919
where it came from or to look in that

772
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:52,640
direction

773
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:54,400
i i mean that story must be pretty

774
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:56,559
interesting for they had a reason to be

775
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,120
looking

776
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:59,600
at that and then suddenly this thing

777
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:01,039
comes out of the ocean i mean

778
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:03,600
and then flies past them yeah i never

779
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:04,880
really thought about it like that but

780
00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:05,200
that

781
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,799
got to be a reason so

782
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:10,159
i mean this is that i mean the reason

783
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:11,600
why i bring that that particular

784
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:12,640
photograph up is

785
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,520
i get asked about it so often um over on

786
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:17,520
my instagram are we gonna see it are we

787
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,640
gonna see it and

788
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,039
i i just want to get as much information

789
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,039
as i can so i thought i'd ask

790
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:25,440
but i know i i wish i i wish that would

791
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:27,840
come out like i don't know if um

792
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:30,799
if tim has any means to to make that

793
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:33,679
happen or not or pull strings

794
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:36,080
you know here's an interesting aside to

795
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:36,720
that

796
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:41,440
conversation about another case

797
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:43,600
that's strikingly similar to that but

798
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,000
happened in the 1960s

799
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,960
and that you know through that email

800
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,039
that i mentioned before with the nimitz

801
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,039
i had been approached by a gentleman

802
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:55,120
that provided some information about

803
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:57,520
a case um some documents and so on and

804
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,120
tim has been working on that

805
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:01,279
and i'm hoping that he has some more

806
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:03,440
information about that coming up it's

807
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:06,080
you know a strikingly kind of similar

808
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,520
type of case and

809
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:09,840
uh i think that when we when you really

810
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:11,039
look at

811
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:14,240
the the time the decades uh

812
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:16,399
since the study first began you start

813
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:17,840
saying wow

814
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:20,240
many times we have the same similar like

815
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,120
reports

816
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,080
um triangle right triangle shaped ufos

817
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,679
for instance yeah

818
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:27,360
yeah it does crop up all the time and it

819
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,840
makes you think that's when people

820
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,000
question

821
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:32,880
about whether it's hidden us technology

822
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,520
and that yet

823
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:35,760
we've seen these craft for decades which

824
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,880
means

825
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,320
they would have had these things back in

826
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,360
that time in the 50s and 60s which

827
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:43,440
makes it harder to believe it really

828
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:45,919
does right you would have to say well

829
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,559
we're chasing these things with you know

830
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:50,799
sort of antiquate back then of course we

831
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:52,159
you know today but back then

832
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,080
the jets weren't even nearly as

833
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:56,799
sophisticated as what we had today

834
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:59,600
with the f-35 and so on but of course uh

835
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,559
back then and

836
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:02,480
yet they were still encountering these

837
00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:03,919
craft that seemed to

838
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:06,640
have performance capabilities you know

839
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:08,960
speeds in excess of 2000

840
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:11,760
miles an hour and maneuvering that was

841
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:12,159
kind of

842
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:15,440
uh running rings around us so yeah just

843
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,960
it's crazy but well and finally what are

844
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,480
your

845
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,880
views on this ua ptf report that's due

846
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,480
on june 25th

847
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:26,559
what do you think we might see or what

848
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,159
do you think we might not see

849
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,000
however you know however you look at it

850
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:31,840
personally i don't think we'll get much

851
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:35,760
but well i mean i i think that

852
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,640
the new york times probably um gave us a

853
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,320
glimpse into what

854
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,720
is going to be revealed in that report i

855
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:44,480
would imagine that

856
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:47,360
that they're going to say that you know

857
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,240
most

858
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,360
sightings have prosaic explanations

859
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:53,440
and that's true of any ufo sightings

860
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:54,799
throughout history

861
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,399
um you know 95 or so

862
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,480
cases usually end up being something

863
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:01,679
that can be

864
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,720
explained as a misidentification

865
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,559
not necessarily hoax i mean that's part

866
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:08,320
of it but most of the time

867
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:11,120
it's just simple misidentification or an

868
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,080
unknown

869
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:14,559
object until then we figure out what

870
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:16,480
what that was and then it becomes

871
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:19,840
a known you know a known object but then

872
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:22,320
there's still this this part of the that

873
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,640
that's truly unknown and i think that

874
00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:27,200
with the military operations area and

875
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:28,159
these sensitive

876
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:32,799
uh air spaces it is a concern that

877
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,799
there's objects that seem to be

878
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,559
operating with impunity

879
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:38,720
and behaving in ways that don't make a

880
00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:39,600
lot of sense

881
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,799
um to the observers um

882
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,640
using some of the most advanced sent

883
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:46,480
sensors we have so i think that

884
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,039
maybe the report will say most of the

885
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:51,039
stuff we found hey we figured it out but

886
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:51,840
there's still

887
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:55,440
percentage here that we don't know what

888
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:56,480
this stuff is

889
00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,000
and it's troubling so yeah the the real

890
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,919
meat of that story is going to be in the

891
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:03,519
classified side of it

892
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,200
the classified annex side of it that

893
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,200
would probably be

894
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:09,519
tightly controlled as far as what any

895
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,880
any of us would see

896
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:12,880
but that's probably where all the video

897
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:13,919
and radar

898
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:17,200
examples are of these unknowns

899
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,440
that makes sense yeah what about the

900
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:21,120
snoopy footage you know hundreds of

901
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,039
hours from 2019

902
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:25,600
um of these objects is that part of it i

903
00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:27,120
i would assume i mean

904
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:29,919
if if mr corbell is releasing footage

905
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:30,320
that

906
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:33,039
dod says hey this footage was used as

907
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,000
part of a

908
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:37,200
uat task force briefing yeah obviously

909
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,799
they're looking at that case

910
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,640
so you'd think they'd have the snoopy

911
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:42,399
and where all the files as well

912
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:44,240
really that they're associated i mean

913
00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:45,760
yeah that makes sense so

914
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:47,760
yeah well listen dave i won't keep you

915
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,440
any longer i think i've pretty much gone

916
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:51,200
over the questions that i wanted to ask

917
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,720
is there anything you want to say before

918
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:54,480
we close this out

919
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:56,799
no but um i didn't know this was your

920
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:57,760
first uh

921
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:00,960
your first cast so um good luck with

922
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,519
it and i feel proud that i'm the

923
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:04,480
inaugural

924
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,640
uh victim no i mean interviewer

925
00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:10,559
i cannot thank you enough like i said

926
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:12,080
i've been a huge fan of your work since

927
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:13,679
the first time the nimitz encounters

928
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,720
appeared

929
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:16,640
and i follow your work very closely on

930
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,480
twitter and i'll be looking forward to

931
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,080
to what else you bring to the table in

932
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,760
the near future

933
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:24,080
so uh thank you thank you so much for

934
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:25,760
your work as well

935
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:28,080
thank you i really appreciate that so

936
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:29,279
yeah take care and

937
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:36,549
so guys thank you this is my first

938
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interview um